This June 1, 2024 oral-history excerpt comes from an interview with Fred McGarvey
after his 90th birthday celebration. In the excerpt, Fred discusses his father Charles
Leo McGarvey's work life, including Hercules factory work in Wellston, Ohio, later
factory management, moves through other factory locations, Charles's fall-semester
attendance at Rio Grande connected to football, and Charles's siblings.
Excerpt transcript, 0:00 to about 3:17
Fred: But over a period of time, you get promotions, and it can be more money in different places to work. But still, in that type of business, they didn't make that lot of money. But, you know, he's one of the people. He just worked his way up.
John: Yeah. So, from I guess probably his forties or so, when he got his first real job.
Fred: Managing the factory.
John: Managing the factory.
Fred: Yeah. And then he worked different factories down south, all over. St. Louis, St. Louis area, Little Rock.
John: Arkansas.
Fred: Arkansas.
John: Because I saw an article that said that Hercules, that they closed one of the Hercules factories in Wellston because they opened one in Arkansas. And I thought, well, I know Grandpa went to Arkansas, so I was wondering if that was the same time that he did that, and if he got that job.
Fred: I don't think so. But, you know, some places he would go to work and he'd run two factories.
John: Yeah.
Fred: And it would be one. And then the last place was in Alabama. He'd run two factories there. And then when he was in Alabama, he was probably fifty-seven, fifty-eight, something like that. Back in Ohio, where he started as a supervisor, they had six factories. They hired him to run all six factories.
Mikayla: Wow.
Fred: So over his lifetime, he was a supervisor. Coming back, he's over, what, 1,200 people.
Mikayla: Wow. That's amazing. He really worked his way up.
Fred: Yeah. He did.
John: That was amazing. In school, two years, he went to Rio Grande College. And my cousin Lois, his daughter, got her doctor's degree there, nursing. And they were able to get his grades and his records for me.
Mikayla: Oh my gosh.
John: And basically, it looked like he went one year for...
Fred: One semester.
John: One semester. For football. That worked. He came back, and it showed one semester.
Fred: Yeah. That was the end of it.
John: So he basically would go in the fall and play football.
Mikayla: I see.
John: And take classes and then...
Fred: Just to play football.
John: Apparently pass classes or not pass them.
Fred: Yeah.
John: And then he would go work, and then he'd come back the next fall and go play football. He did a couple years.
Fred: Yeah.
Mikayla: How many siblings did he have?
Fred: How many what?
Mikayla: Siblings. How big was his family? How many brothers and sisters?
John: How many aunts and uncles did you have from his side?
Fred: He had three sisters. He had a brother. Let's see what he was... And then he had two brothers that died.
Mikayla: When they were young?
Fred: Young. I think one was awful. Somehow he got on fire, his body.
Mikayla: Oh. That is awful.
John: Like a freak accident.
Fred: Yeah. I can't remember how the other died.
John: It's like your grandpa's, some of his siblings died really tragically.
Fred: That was it.
John: Four, seven. Seven total.
Mikayla: So their names were... do you remember their names?
Fred: Beezer. I don't know the young kids who died. The rest was Tom, [Chow Mommie / Charles's Mommie], Margaret, and Sue.
Family clarification: The brothers Fred could not name were Clarence McGarvey, 1890-1899, who died in a cricket bat accident, and Daniel McGarvey, 1893-1914, who died in a fire. "Chow Mommie" or "Charles's Mommie" refers to Charles Leo McGarvey's nephew Charles, Fred's cousin.
John: Yeah.
Fred: Yeah.